Kiwis Living and Working in Australia
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Defacto Aussies
Kiwis are allowed to live and work in Australia without becoming a permanent resident or Australian citizen (provided one supports themselves and doesn't have a criminal record).
We moved to Queensland, Australia over three years ago, seeking a different experience and better work opportunities.
We're treated like permanent residents for some things. We were able to get distance education fees waived on medical grounds when our son did distance ed for 6 months. We received the government stimulus package payments and get childcare rebates from Centrelink.
We are entitled to rebates on medical expenses including free eye tests and free doctors visits if we get services from someone that bulk-bills.
We are not entitled to receive a carer's allowance of $30-$50 per week since our son was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, because we are not citizens. We do not qualify to become citizens because we don't have a close relative (ie parent or sibling) that is a citizen.
If we were doing a job that is considered essential like a teacher or nurse and are under 45 years, then we could become permanent residents after a year and a citizen after 3 more years.
New Zealanders living Australia are entitled to receive a first-home buyers grant of around $7000.
Colourful Friends
Reptile Pet
Working in Queensland
My husband has a background in truck driving and warehousing, and found work fairly quickly. He did temping initially, and is currently driving around the Brisbane region. Hubby's truck and trailer licence transferred over easily, but he had to do a forklift course because Queensland don't accept NZ forklift tickets.
My husband is earning approximately the same as he was in NZ, but has better conditions - no night shift, no weekends. Some people can earn $100-150k working in mines, but the work is hot, dirty and volatile, and usually rip-off accommodation is the killer. It didn't appeal to us as a family, but could be worth considering for single people or child-free couples.
I wanted part-time work to fit in with raising our young son. We noticed that jobs in general were better paid than in NZ, including retail. I started with a part-time position as a merchandiser and now work part-time for a publishing company as an assistant. I wouldn't have been considered for either role in NZ, and I've never seen these kinds of jobs available.
We think the pay is at least 25% higher than in NZ. Tax is not paid on the first $15,000. My husband still gets paid penal rates, which are a bit of a distant memory for NZ. Compulsory super is on top of our salaries, not subtracted out of it, which gives us a little extra too.
We've heard people say that Queensland is about 20 years behind NZ and other states of Australia in the way they do things - banking, workplace cultures, opening hours etc. It's probably true. But then, maybe it was a better lifestyle in NZ 20-30 years ago - back when retail people didn't have to work insane hours & actually got penal rates.
Riverfire Festival in Brisbane
Outdoor Light Show
Cost of Living
We live on the outskirts of Brissy, and find it much more affordable than when we lived in Auckland. It usually takes us less than half an hour to get to work. Other cities like Sydney and Melbourne may be more expensive to live in.
We've noticed the price of petrol steadily increasing, but it has a long way to go before it catches NZ's prices. Groceries are approximately the same. We are driving later model cars than we had in NZ - both cars are under 5 years old instead of a cars that are 10-20 years old.
Eye-glasses, furniture and appliances are cheaper and the latter two can be negotiated down, saving $100-$200 per item (someone from the UK told us it's actually expected).
Electricity has increased in cost since we've been here and we get stung for water rates if we use to much water (which fortunately, we don't). Our phone/internet isn't particularly cheap, but from memory, we get more for our money (broadband etc).
We thought the food in NZ tasted better when we first moved over - we think because of the drought. A lot of the meat is cyrovaced for longer shelf-life (which we dislike) and the beef was grain-fed in the drought. Our meat and other fresh produce taste a lot better since the drought ended.
Wild Dolphin
Steam-train
Everyday Living
The first house we lived in was a cockroach-infested oven. I'm not fond of creepy crawlies, and the cockroaches are BIG and can fly. Saw some massive spiders too, although we've only see a deadly redback a few times.
We're now in a better house that has decent air-conditioning and is shadier with fly-screens. Good for keeping creepy-crawlies out and keeping our cat in. We adopted a cat and a lizard. It is recommended that cats are raised as inside cats, because Australians tend to not be very cat-friendly and also because cats can be eaten by snakes etc. We needed to get a permit to keep up to two reptiles.
There is plenty to do in South-East Queensland - theme parks on the Gold Coast, art galleries, zoos, beaches, parks and concerts. There's been so many international concerts that my hubby would have loved to have gone to, but we're still trying to get on our feet after coming over with practically nothing.
Our dog has to be on a leash or use special dog parks, but that wasn't too big a deal with him getting older. We enjoy the nice weather for most of the year (summer can be a big uncomfortable for us, though). We enjoy the colourful birds and lizards. I've only seen one wild snake, which happened to be a dangerous red-bellied black snake, when going for a walk in a forest.
We still enjoy the novelty of having colourful birds visit our garden, hearing frogs trumpeting loudly after rain and having a green-tree frog or lizard take up residence in our letterbox.
Swimming without getting wet
Car Racing
Will we go back to NZ?
We were in flood affected regions of Queensland. We think the recent earthquakes in Christchurch, NZ were far more devastating and will be much more difficult to recover from.
We like the climate except in summer - when it's rather too uncomfortable for us kiwis from a cold climate. Each summer, we ask ourselves - why the heck do we live here? But then we love the warm autumn/winter/spring.
Will we ever move back to NZ? Possibly. I'm not keen while NZ is still very shaky with earthquakes - I think NZ is going to find it hard to recover from this recent tragedy. We have more work options here - we're not keen on going back to lower wages with the same cost of living.
We'd be disappointed if we had to go back to NZ without the chance to visit around Australia first. If something terrible were to happen to my husband, I might go back, especially as we aren't citizens.
We've close enough to visit every few years, and family have been over to visit too.
Considering homeschooling my son with Asperger's
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I lived for five years in Sydney in the 1960's. I bough a condiminium in Vaucluse (top area) for 14,800 dls Aust., and sold in 1969 for about $16,000 dls Oz. hahaha. they go for about 3/4 million today.
I love Sydney but it's for the rich these days, at least the harborside is. bob. I like Perth, too, and went back there for a year in 1988, but dear and not many jobs...then anyway...
PS Oz wouldn't let us stay! So I went back to Mexico which is always welcoming
What are penal rates?
Many here in the US think of NZ as paradise. I have friends who wanted to emigrate there about 20 years ago after visiting on their honeymoon, but were turned down. They still talk about it wistfully...you know, what might have been.
Strangely enough I have only been to Queensland a couple of times. NSW is my home. I would, however, like to visit NZ though not Christchurch until things settle down.
Sydney nowadays is a rat race with wheels on. It is a place where people think they are going to make money and there is plenty of land speculation going on. I live out Wollongong way myself on the south coast.
Big, flying cockroaches? Sounds like what they call German cockroaches. I came across them in Parramatta back in the '80s when I was working for an American chemical company. Not good when they can fly.
I have a couple of blue-tongues under my unit. They are not pets. They just turned up one day and I keep my distance. They think I don't know they are around. I am not suggesting they are dangerous. We are the danger. I won't allow them to get to used to this human being harmless and friendly just in case they meet up with a human not so nice and friendly. They make a cute couple for lizards.
Cats can do a lot of ecological damage hence pet cats roaming free in the country are not looked upon in a friendly way. My NZ friend Lyn McConchie has a cat walk in her backyard which allows her cat a lot of freedom without endangering wildlife. She lives in Norsewood, New Zealand on a farm.
Yes, there's lots of colorful bird life in the land of Oz.
good hub.
Good hub,keep it up
There have been murders on the south coast. The most gruesome one I can recall happened near Sutherland. Anyway, around Wollongong you do have some nice beaches.
Oh, blue-tongues can bite alright but they're not poisonous. And they would only do so in self defense.
Don't really want to know about litter trays. Stomach not that strong.
Well, the Aborigines ate blue-tongues and they did roast them over fires the way they did snakes. Probably the Aborigines put them onto this. Me? I am not that hungry - yet.
I have tried kangaroo but prefer rabbit when it is available. They are both lean meat. I can't imagine being into eating horse but someday I might surprise myself. I have tried eel and found it to be too oily. I have yet to try snake.
Enjoyed this hub - we lived in Perth for 2 years before returning "home" to Wgtn just over a year ago - and frankly I am pretty much missing Perth - neither is ideal - what I really want is a city with Perth's weather and Wellington's cafes and restaurants (and their prices!).
My feeling is that if you are in trades or semi-skilled jobs that Australia pays well particulary after tax and allowances. However my partner is making more money in Wgtn in IT than he was in Perth - not much more, but more. I am self-employed and its much easier to run a business in NZ compared to Australia - their tax system is a bit of a nightmare - simple questions about GST on overseas payments -which I could find the answer on the IRD website - took hours and many layers of helpful people in the ATO to come up with the "not sure" answer! After that I hired an accountant!
The wind is so strong here I mistook an earthquake for a wind gust - and its 33C in Perth today - yup definitely miss it. BTW Queensland isn't backwards anymore - if you want backwards go to Perth - no Sunday shopping - yup every mall closed - so people can go to Church or something LOL!
Yeah we really thought Queensland was backwards (it was when I lived in NSW in the 80's) - but its moved on hugely since the got rid of Joh! We enjoyed traveling thru it on that trip - but I couldn't live with the humidity in the summer and the inability to swim in most of the state! Oddly the jellyfish don't close the beaches in WA - I suspect that something to do with the ability to sue anyone who lets you do anything in Qlds which you subsequently hurt yourself doing!
Yeah the Sunday trading was pretty incredible - as was the attitude to gays - though oddly as a woman it was OK. I suspect being not white wouldn't be good either in Perth - but I can't tell because everyone I met there was - which I find odd in itself!
There's a report in a freebie railway magazine about a New Zealander auctioning off the great rock that bounced down a hill and demolished his home during the earthquake. The largest bid so far for the great rock is $750. The money collected will apparently go toward the victims of the quake.
The rugby match sounds like a good idea.
I have never heard of a feijoa tree.
Are they sweet like kiwi fruit or passion fruit?
Might be a good idea. Better yet, you could make it on all fruit and veggies that originate in NZ.
I thought kiwifruit would be original.
from goose to kiwi, interesting.
Thanks for the great hub, its definately got me thinking. A few years back..well 2 years actually, i had the idea of packing my family up and moving to australia. Now, still living in NZ, i just want it to happen. we have three children. our oldest in her last year of primary, our second will be starting primary next year and a 7 month old. Me being an at home mum, income is pretty tight with just my partner working as a builder. would love to start a new life and hoping australia will help us begin. though we've heard so many success stories, the thought of packing and selling our things is already mentally draining..but i know that if this is something that i really want to do, then its all worth it right?my partner however doesnt seem to share the same enthusiasm as me and is torn between leaving his immediate family and moving away. He envisions the whole moving process and finalising the debts we currently have just too much to handle too soon. ( march next year)
i love the idea of "dont think too hard about it, just do it" and i would if there were no children to consider oh and bills to pay off and i had savings (which is non existant)...advice would be much appreciated.
This winter in the land of Oz has been cold enough, Baileybear! AND they put up the cost of electricity in the middle of winter! Some people have no heart. No heart at all.
I am in NSW where we are used to warmer winters than we got this year.







diogenese 15 months ago
You may find it hard to move back, on the old "can't put the cork back in the bottle," syndrome (or the tooth paste back in the tube. What i mean by this is that you moved from a tiny country - in relative terms - to one of the world's largest. I did the same when I left UK for Oz - then the US and Mexico - many years ago, and I have never been happy in small countries since. They feel so limiting after the huge skies and vast distances one can cover without having to go near an airport, the bane of modern man. Bob
Good and useful hub, by the way. I used to live in Brisy for a while...nice people and great prawns!!