Kiwis Moving to Australia

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By Baileybear

Part of the Family

Our dog, Bailey moved to Australia with us.  He doesn't need a warm bed now, but has a cooler version off the ground.
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Our dog, Bailey moved to Australia with us. He doesn't need a warm bed now, but has a cooler version off the ground.

Deciding to Make the Move

We moved to Queensland, Australia nearly 4 years ago. Queensland appealed to us because of warm winters, only one plane to catch back to New Zealand (places like Perth and Townsville have extra expense and time because of distance) and because we thought a huge city like Melbourne or Sydney would be too scary and expensive. We were pretty discouraged by the low wages and lack of work opportunities in New Zealand too.

We made the firm decision to move after we visited the Sunshine Coast during the winter. The Sunshine Coast is a tourism destination, and we didn't consider it seriously to live and work, especially as it gets crazy in the summer. We talked to many positive people, including Kiwis that moved over years ago and Australians that said, 'why not?' We met some people from the UK that moved over with just their clothes - they said, 'don't think too hard about it, just do it!' Trying to nut out every little detail can be paralysing; taking action is often the best strategy.

Back in New Zealand, Kiwis were more reserved, cautious and negative. 'Seems risky.' 'Maybe you should have a house to come back to first?' 'X spent $15, 000 getting their furniture over.' 'Australia's not all it's cracked up to be.'


Last Kiwi Birthday

We moved over shortly after our son's 4th birthday.  He still has his kiwi accent, but it's more a hybrid kiwi-aussie accent now
We moved over shortly after our son's 4th birthday. He still has his kiwi accent, but it's more a hybrid kiwi-aussie accent now

Not Far Across the Ditch

New Zealanders are allowed to live and work in Australia for as long as they like, even if they don't become Australian citizens. They can't vote, go on the dole or join the defence.

There were around 1000 families moving to South-East Queensland from New Zealand each week when we moved over. Many others were moving from the UK, South Africa and other states of Australia. I'd estimate two-thirds of people living in Qld are were not born in Qld.

Many people from the UK move to Australia and New Zealand. They tend to love the climate and lifestyle, but miss family and find it very expensive to go back for visits on the other side of the world. They also missed their careers and income in the UK.

We moved from the North Island to the South Island and back to the North Island of New Zealand. We've seen most of this small country. It cost about the same to fly within the islands as it did to fly to Brisbane or Sydney. Being just over the ditch, it wasn't that far or expensive for family to visit. We were keen to experience living in another country. And if we hated it, we could always go back to NZ.


Kiwi-Aussie Boy

6th Birthday in Australia
6th Birthday in Australia

Taking Action

We decided much of our stuff like appliances was too old to justify the expense of shipping over, but still in good enough condition to sell for a decent price. We found an auction outlet that would collect our belongings and sell them, depositing money in the bank as things were sold.

The main stuff we decided to take was our bedroom suites (new rimu furniture and near-new beds), and more expensive toys, like LEGO. Plus the family dog.  From memory, it cost around $2000 to ship over what we did (not a full house-lot), using professional movers. All our clothes fitted into suitcases.

The dog's airfare, boarding kennels and vet check before coming over cost more than airfares for 2 adults and 1 child. We had to buy a crate for the dog (was cheaper than hiring one, as didn't have to send back). Cats and dogs need vet checks shortly before leaving New Zealand, but there are no quarantine times.

We left our young son with family, with the intention to come over nearly 2 weeks later. The dog was staying in kennels near Auckland that was experienced with dispatching pets overseas. Our son was too upset being left behind, and within a week, I had to fly back to get him. We all ended up sleeping on an air-bed together until our bedroom stuff arrived.

Things were a bit stressful until hubby was settled into work and money was coming in. We think it is an easier option to sell possessions and buy new ones, rather than paying for freight and waiting several weeks for it to arrive. Also, customs can be pedantic if they spot animal fur on a couch or decide that your lawnmower hasn't been steam-cleaned well enough - so they will order fumigation/steam-cleaning at your cost.



Best Birthday Ever

Our son (right) asked to take a friend to Dreamworld at the Gold Coast, Qld for his 7th birthday.
Our son (right) asked to take a friend to Dreamworld at the Gold Coast, Qld for his 7th birthday.

First Things First

We had to find somewhere to live and also find jobs. We found temporary accommodation in a bed and breakfast (which was more like bed, shower, toilet, no breakfast) and hired a car. We'd heard of others with good jobs that got transferred with work and got put up in comfortable hotels. Not us, we were sink or swim - we are not entitled to the dole and had to find a way to support ourselves, or go back to NZ.

To hire property, one needs local ID and has to jump through plenty of hoops. These are some of the things we had to get sorted ASAP in roughly this order:

  1. Tax file number from Australian Tax Office - needed for employment and to apply for Queensland Driver's licence
  2. Bank account - we'd already made arrangements while still in New Zealand, but had to go in and sign to activate our account.
  3. Queensland Driver's Licence - from Queensland Transport. One can drive in Australia on a NZ licence, but a QLD licence is essential local ID. We did a short written test, paid a small fee and were issued with licences. My husband had no trouble having his truck and trailer licence transferred over, but he had to redo his forklift ticket, as they don't accept the NZ certification.
  4. Accommodation - we found somewhere to live fairly quickly, but unfortunately, it turned out to be a cockroach infested oven. If you're from a colder climate moving to a subtropical/tropical region, be sure to get a house with air-conditioning and not too much sun-exposure, because the summers are HOT! We needed 100 points of ID (QLD driver's licence, NZ passport, phone referee/rental ledger are usual requirements). All our rentals have done 3 monthly inspections, which we never got in NZ. Most are okay with 'outside pets.' We had to cough up 4 weeks bond plus 2 weeks rent in advance - ouch!
  5. Transport - Buying a new car is considerably cheaper than in NZ, but buying a used car was more expensive. There's no ACC in Australia, so one has to pay an extra insurance with registration incase of being sued for causing damage to someone (people can sue in Australia too, something that doesn't happen yet in NZ). It is highly recommended to have tinted windows and air-conditioning in cars in Queensland. Initially, we bought one new car and used public transport (buses and trains). We were given a second car by someone that couldn't bother re-registering it. When that car died and finally got towed away, we were able to buy a later model second car.
  6. Employment - Hubby started a job truck-driving, but found it too stressful trying to find his way around in a foreign city initially. So, he did temping for several months (after he got a Qld forklift ticket). When he went back driving, he got a GPS navigation device. I only wanted part-time work to fit in with being a parent, and worked as a merchandiser and then an image library assistant (neither of which I'd done before). The wages are approximately 25% higher than New Zealand and superannuation is added onto the package, not subtracted off. No tax is paid for the first $15, 000 earned. We could claim work-related expenses like work-boots, work sunglasses and computer expenses.
  7. Medicare card - this enables discounts on doctors visits and other medical services. By going to a 'bulk-billed' doctor, we don't have to pay a cent.
  8. Centrelink - we didn't know about this initially. Families can receive childcare rebates and other entitlements from the Australian government, depending on income. Otherwise, childcare can seem outrageously expensive. We've chosen Family Daycare for childcare, which is affordable care in carer's houses - the carers must pass police checks and safety checks. We've also received one-off payments here and there from centrelink too, sometimes hundreds of dollars.
  9. Household items - it was fun to go shopping for new items. Second-hand stores were a bit of a rip off, but we bought a couple of old sofas, and to get rid of them, we just left them on the side of the road - within an hour, they were gone - someone squeezed them one at a time into the back of their old hatchback. Furniture is quite cheap. We bought some of our furniture from IKEA - trendy and looks more expensive than it really is. We were told by a UK immigrant to haggle with appliances and furniture - can usually get $100-$200 off larger items. We had to buy a water efficient front-loader washing machine, which we received a government rebate on (a water-saving incentive during the drought). So just as well we didn't ship our water-guzzling washing machine over with water restrictions.
  10. Childcare/school - with no family members to do free babysitting, we arranged a few hours at a childcare centre for socialisation and so I could work part-time. We were to discover that our son would not be starting school on his 5th birthday the coming May, but would be starting while still 4 at the beginning of the year (a non-compulsory year called 'prep' - equivalent to NZ Year 1). Many schools have outside school hours care, but our son did better with a Family Day carer - where small groups of children are cared for in the carer's home.


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diogenes Level 7 Commenter 15 months ago

I like NZ - beautiful, friendly people, etc., but I love OZ. I dislike UK and Europe in general, but love the US and Canada. The main reason for these preferences is that my preferred countries are HUGE! Once you live in a large continent - island, whatever, you feel claustrophobic living in little lands again. Many advantages which one could do a hub about, but one of the main ones in these days of terrorism and the Middle East in flames as I write, is that you can find hot weather or snow without leaving your own country, no waiting in dreadful airports; and there is SPACE lovely space, to escape the crowds and be back with nature and the stars...Bob

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Baileybear Hub Author 15 months ago

diogenes - NZ has diverse scenery in such a small country. We've seen hardly any of Oz - it's such a huge continent. We'd be really disappointed if we had to go back to NZ without having been to many places. We'd love to visit Canada - not sure if that'll ever happen.

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diogenes Level 7 Commenter 15 months ago

...I forgot to add my beloved Mexico to the above, what was I thinking of! But, despite all the controversy over their system and world influence, the USA is the most wonderfully scenic country in the world, no question. North Americans are so lucky and they know it! R

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Baileybear Hub Author 15 months ago

diogenes - sounds like you are very well travelled. Where are you from originally? I've seen some fabulous shots of diverse Australian scenery too - the big continents have fantastic diversity, in landscape, flora and fauna. Being very isolated, NZ doesn't have much in the way of native wildlife

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Austinstar Level 7 Commenter 15 months ago

I would love to visit OZ someday. I fear I am getting too old to travel, though. We just went down to the Texas coast, a four hour drive, and it's taken me 4 days to get over the backache and tension of the trip. I used to fly a lot, but now I think even that would be too stressful for me and Bob. We need a long ocean voyage like they used to do it. :-)

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Baileybear Hub Author 15 months ago

Austinstar - my hubby would be quite happy to drive for hours to get around Oz. I'd find that too uncomfortable sitting as a passenger for hours. I'd rather fly domestic and stay somewhere and check it out (but then one needs to hire a car or use public transport). I've never been interested in doing the big OE thing - I'd like to visit a few countries overseas though - Canada & some places in Europe. They're frustrated dreams of ours along with owning a house.

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Austinstar Level 7 Commenter 15 months ago

Owning a house is not all it's cracked up to be. I just got an estimate on replacing the roof for about $3500.00 (I have no idea how much that is in OZ). Plus I need my siding replaced ($12,000) and my carpeting is totally worn out in every room. My furniture is only fit for dogs to sit on and I've been needing to have my bathroom redone for about 10 years now.

It's like once you buy a house, you have to keep re-buying the damm thing with all the maintenance. Plus it anchors you pretty permanently to wherever you are and if some crappy neighbors move in you can't get away from them.

On the plus side, my pets live in pet heaven and have a forever home. I can do whatever I want to my walls and outdoor decor. I could have a horse out here if I wanted, but that's too expensive. I could get off the grid if I had enough money. It's quiet out here and the stars are visible. I don't know. It's a trade off.

I enjoyed living in the city and I enjoy living out here in the hills. It's just me, Bob and the pets.

Set your priorities and goals and work towards them. Eventually, you will get there.

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Baileybear Hub Author 15 months ago

Austinstar - think hubby has the house dream more than me - he'd like to do things to house/garden. I'm terrified to get into enormous debt

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nancypolaska 15 months ago

very attractive and creative.. thanks for your effort... continue hubbing...

well tagged write up with all information..

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Baileybear Hub Author 15 months ago

nancy - thanks, and learning to write less in a hub. I have one on the way about kiwis living and working in Australia

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Austinstar Level 7 Commenter 15 months ago

Bailey Bear, it's not debt, it's an investment. Besides, whoever dies with the most toys wins! That's a joke along with "it's only money" "can't take it with you" and all that.

You Kiwis/Aussies have done away with debtor's prisons, right?

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Baileybear Hub Author 15 months ago

Debtor's prisons? What are those? The first Australian immigrants were convicts from England apparently.

Yes, I accept the whole 'can't take it with you' philosophy. Hubby is worried about how we will support ourselves paying rent in old age.

On a sad note, many NZers are homeless or lost loved ones in another earthquake in Christchurch that happened today

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freecampingaussie Level 5 Commenter 13 months ago

I lived North & south Islands , moved to Brisbane then Caloundra , back to Picton NZ then Forster NSW , traveling around Aussie now with caravan !

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Baileybear Hub Author 13 months ago

freecampingaussie - Caloundra was where we went for a family holiday before we decided to move over. We lived in both the north & south island of NZ.

special category visa 11 months ago

New Zealands citizens moving to australia should be careful you are classed as temp residents by immigration which can cause haugh issues see http://www.specialcategoryvisa.com/subclass444/

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Baileybear Hub Author 11 months ago

spv - Hubby had an annoying experience recently with the airforce - they changed their rules and refused to let non-citizens deliver goods. So ridiculous. Finally someone saw sense & realised he's not a terrorist & he now has a letter giving him permission

eastnigella 9 months ago

hi there. Is it true you need to work for 3 months in Queensland to get the residency proof before being allowed to rent a house? Three months is a long time to extend friend's hospitality.

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Baileybear Hub Author 9 months ago

No, kiwis can rent a house straight away. Just need to provide some sort of proof that good tenant (provide some NZ referees).

eastnigella 9 months ago

Great. Thanks for that. How much do you think the whole move to Oz costed you? Someone on the news recently quoted $30k. I think that is a bit excessive.

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Baileybear Hub Author 9 months ago

eastnigella - nah, didn't cost anywhere near that, because we hardly took anything with us. It was cost of one-way airfares, airfare for dog (plus kenneling, crate, vet check & transfer to airport).

Our airfares for 3 people from NZ to Oz were around $1000 total, and the dog was a little more than that from memory all up. We shipped over only a small amt of stuff - beds, our bedroom furniture, around 10 boxes of stuff - was less than $3,000.

If our beds weren't such good condition (near new), we wouldn't have bothered shipping them (and waiting for them at the other end). We bought new fridge etc in Oz (and all our old stuff was sold via auction in NZ).

Cheapest way is take nothing much over.

We stayed in B&B for few days until we got rental. Hired car for week until bought car. Lucky people get their transfers paid for via work & get put up in hotels.

So, it cost us about $5,000. Would have been only around $1,500 to move our family if no pets & didn't take furniture.

Make sure you have some money saved to set up at other end though, eg bond if renting, deposit on appliances or car etc

eastnigella 9 months ago

Baileybear. Will keep those things in mind. Your blog has been real help. Thanks

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samtenabray Level 3 Commenter 6 months ago

That was a great read and I am glad to hear you and your family are liking Australia. My family and i moved to Australia in 2006 but actually moved back to the UK for the reasons you explained in your article. We only lasted a year back in the UK and made the trip back Australia. It has made me appreciate what we have here so much more and I do absolutely love Australia. I am in the process of becoming a citizen and I will be a very proud Aussie soon enough.

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Baileybear Hub Author 6 months ago

samtenabray - wow - moving to other side of world twice. My hubby keeps pet snakes. We can't do that in NZ.

Things to do in Brisbane 4 months ago

This was a good article and very helpful for people moving to QLD. Another helpful blog we read - http://www.oetravelblogs.com/1/post/2011/10/brisba

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ideax 4 months ago

Nicely written expereiences! I lived in NZ for 8 years too, North Island! I love the place, the people and the nature! I had lived in Belgium too prior to NZ, then after New Zealand moved to Canada! Canada is a great place too. Now I lived in the USA! All the these countries have pluses and minuses! Just try your best to get the pluses and learn to live with the minuses. There is no perfect country but all of these places I've been are all marvelous! Thanks for sharing Baileybear!

Jane 7 weeks ago

Im a Aussie married to a Kiwi/Maori and we have seen many of my husbands family members come and move over to Australia. We're situated in Perth. I get very frustrated with his relatives making very negative comments about Australia in front of me. Most of them very racist. When we visited NZ I loved exploring a new place and would never dream of making rude comments about the town i was visiting.Please remember that when you do move over please refrain from hurtful comments to fellow Aussies about their town etc. You either love it here and embrace the culture and lifestyle or please head back to NZ :-)

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